From sentto-44114-16210-1033258651-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Sep 28 17:20:56 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.104]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vRpO-0000nu-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:20:54 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16210-1033258651-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2002 00:17:31 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 29 Sep 2002 00:17:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 17396 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 00:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2002 00:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 00:17:30 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 993433C5CF; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 20:17:29 -0400 (EDT) To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com Message-Id: <02092820172800.30239@neofelis> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 20:17:28 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: MELBI COI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=CP 1252 X-archive-position: 1698 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Saturday 28 September 2002 17:48, And Rosta wrote: > - all improvements welcomed. I particularly struggled with trying to find > ways to avoid ending lines (fourth lines) on a trochee -- "poi mroselfu > le kam zifre" is particularly annoying; it would be nice if Lojban song > allowed elision of the final vowel of a gismu. "fe mi litru" ought to be > "mo'i zo'a mi litru"; I considered "i le be mo'i zo'a mi litru" as an > alternative. Me, when I sing "da pu laldo ninmu", I elide some of the final vowels: da pu laldo ninmu co tunlo le sfan- .i pe'i le sfan- nuntu'o na dran- .i mutc- se xran- da pu laldo ninmu co tunlo le mlat- .i tunlo le mlat- .i cizra bo plat- The final consonants of "sfan-", "dran-", "xran-", and "mutc-" are soft, but those of "mlat-" and "plat-" are not, because of the respective vowels. I think that a little poetic license should be allowed in songs - we aren't singing for computers. I've seen bad grammar in French songs - "le petit navire" has the line "On tiras à la courte paille", where a wrong verb form is used for its liaison effect. phma ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/