From sentto-44114-16220-1033306048-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Sep 29 06:30:57 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 06:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.75]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17ve9t-0002wG-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 06:30:53 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16220-1033306048-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2002 13:27:28 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 29 Sep 2002 13:27:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 77119 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 13:27:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2002 13:27:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-2.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.102) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 13:27:28 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-68-61.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.68.61]) by mailbox-2.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E7919A73 for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 15:27:25 +0200 (DST) To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000b01c267b2$ff68e7e0$a3c80950@ftiq2awxk6> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:29:02 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: sticky hypothesis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 X-archive-position: 1708 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > And: > > {da'i fu'e }, I think. > > Well, I restricted {fu'e} to attitudinals, but I do not object to extend > its use to discursives. The problem is that I would understand > {dai'ifu'e} as a scope indicator for what is hypothetical > rather than a scope indicator for the consequences of the > hypothesis, which is what I am really looking for. > > mu'omi'e lioNEL Sorry, I read your question overhastily. But I wonder whether you misconstrue the function of da'i. Despite much usage to the contrary, it is not really a way to state conditional meaning. How about if you give an English example of what you would like to say, so we can get an idea of what you're after? --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/