From sentto-44114-16281-1033415116-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Sep 30 12:48:51 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.70]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17w6XA-0001z3-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:48:48 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16281-1033415116-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2002 19:45:16 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 19:45:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21622 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 19:45:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 19:45:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-5.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.105) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 19:45:15 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-149.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.149]) by mailbox-5.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C54614E5E for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:45:12 +0200 (DST) To: Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:46:50 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: LOI PRENU GO PA MEI GI KA'E NAI TE JINGA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1769 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Jorge: > la and cusku di'e > > >How about {loi prenu go pa mei gi ka'e nai te jinga} > >that sounds pretty coolass to me -- something John might consent to chant. > > Yes, but {lei prenu} rather than {loi prenu}. Any individual > person, any pair, any threesome, can instantiate {loi prenu}. > That says "Some people, united, can never be defeated", not > what we mean. What about {ro pregri}? I don't quite want to say "a certain mass of people", either. Well, it's not wrong, I guess. > {ka'enai} is not grammatical officially, but it has wide usage > support. John's {ginai ka'e} alternative is good too. requires stress as: gi NAI ka'E te JINga -- so I'm not sure if that'd work. > The causal relationship has to be groked from context, I suppose. More than in the original? --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/