From sentto-44114-16282-1033415939-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Sep 30 13:02:33 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.102]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17w6kQ-00021g-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:02:30 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16282-1033415939-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2002 19:58:59 -0000 X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 30 Sep 2002 19:58:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 80094 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2002 19:58:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Sep 2002 19:58:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-13.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.113) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2002 19:58:58 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-149.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.149]) by mailbox-13.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81983D17D; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:58:55 +0200 (DST) To: "John Cowan" Cc: "lojban" Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200209301954.PAA24895@mail2.reutershealth.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:00:33 +0100 Subject: [lojban] Re: LOI PRENU GO PA MEI GI KA'E NAI TE JINGA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1770 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list John: > And Rosta scripsit: > > > Is {ka'e nai} not standard Lojban for "cannot"? The meaning I intended > > was "is a unity iff cannot be defeated" -- makes a stronger claim than > > the original, but not inappropriately so. That is, the meaning is > > "go pa mei gi na ka'e te jinga". > > No, ka'enai is ungrammatical. But it so happens that "ka'e na" will work, > since tenses and NAs can be interchanged. True, & in fact I'd thought of that but decided that it was a bit hypocritical of me to rely on this rule only a couple of days after advocating shunning it... --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/