From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Sun Sep 22 04:15:25 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 11:15:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 40691 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 11:15:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 11:15:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-3.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.103) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 11:15:24 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-66-147.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.66.147]) by mailbox-3.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4335F172A1 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:15:23 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: Sets and classes Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:17:04 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 15969 Jorge: > la djorden cusku di'e > > > A better gloss for {selcmi} might be "membered thing". > > > Is the empty set a "membered thing"? > > > >It is as much as nonempty sets are. > > It is as much a "thing with members" as nonempty sets? > > Only if {selcmi} can mean {selcmi be zi'o}. "Only if {selcmi} can mean {se cmima be zi'o}". The empty set is definitely not a se cmima. However, it might well be a selcmi. --And.