From pycyn@aol.com Thu Sep 19 13:45:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 20:45:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 21001 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 20:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 20:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 20:45:17 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.10.) id r.138.148f51e1 (4230) for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <138.148f51e1.2abb9155@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:45:09 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] ka versus du'u To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_138.148f51e1.2abb9155_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 15863 --part1_138.148f51e1.2abb9155_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/19/2002 1:04:49 PM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: << > One way it can be done is with subscripts: > > le ka ce'uxipa ce'uxire zo'u broda fa ce'uxipa > ce'uxire ce'uxire ce'uxipa > > Another way is with goi: > > le ka ce'u goi ko'a ce'u goi ko'e zo'u broda fa > ko'a ko'e ko'e ko'a >> As I said, it can be done, but it is not tidy the way that {da, de, di} is (though, of course, these have to go to subscripts eventually as well) -- nor nearly as clear, either to the eye or the understanding. I'm not sure what the ideal solution would be (I personally like taking {ce'u} as lambda and using the regular variables) or even a practical one, but if we are going to do much more of this lambdaing, we need somthing, just to make usuable example. --part1_138.148f51e1.2abb9155_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/19/2002 1:04:49 PM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:

<<

One way it can be done is with subscripts:

        le ka ce'uxipa ce'uxire zo'u broda fa ce'uxipa
        ce'uxire ce'uxire ce'uxipa

Another way is with goi:

        le ka ce'u goi ko'a ce'u goi ko'e zo'u broda fa
        ko'a ko'e ko'e ko'a

>>
As I said, it can be done, but it is not tidy the way that {da, de, di} is (though, of course, these have to go to subscripts eventually as well) -- nor nearly as clear, either to the eye or the understanding. I'm not sure what the ideal solution would be (I personally like taking {ce'u} as lambda and using the regular variables) or even a practical one, but if we are going to do much more of this lambdaing, we need somthing, just to make usuable example. --part1_138.148f51e1.2abb9155_boundary--