Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.82]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vkPT-0005EQ-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:11:23 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16246-1033330078-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2002 20:07:58 -0000 X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 29 Sep 2002 20:07:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 21105 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2002 20:07:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Sep 2002 20:07:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m06.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.161) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2002 20:07:57 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.7a.2d933edb (4320) for ; Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7a.2d933edb.2ac8b798@aol.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:07:52 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: sticky hypothesis Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7a.2d933edb.2ac8b798_boundary" X-archive-position: 1734 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pycyn@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 2289 Lines: 51 --part1_7a.2d933edb.2ac8b798_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/29/2002 9:53:23 AM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: << > I think you want {ru'a} not {da'i} for this. > >>Assuming that the English is at least somewhat on track, {ru'a}, "I postulate" is very different from {da'i} "supposing." Postulation is usually part of an explanation and evidentials are use to indicate the source of something you are claiming. Supposing, on the other hand, is not claiming anything (it is the opposite -- on the list -- of "in fact') and is being explicitly used for tentative or experimental investigations. It seems to be what is wanted for indirect proofs, for example, which seems to be what is involved here. The un{da'i} is {da'inao} not {ki}, probably. --part1_7a.2d933edb.2ac8b798_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/29/2002 9:53:23 AM Central Daylight Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:

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I think you want {ru'a} not {da'i} for this.

>>Assuming that the English is at least somewhat on track, {ru'a}, "I postulate" is very different from {da'i} "supposing." Postulation is usually part of an explanation and evidentials are use to indicate the source of something you are claiming. Supposing, on the other hand, is not claiming anything (it is the opposite -- on the list -- of "in fact') and is being explicitly used for tentative or experimental investigations. It seems to be what is wanted for indirect proofs, for example, which seems to be what is involved here.

The un{da'i} is {da'inao} not {ki}, probably.

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