From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Fri Sep 20 12:08:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 20 Sep 2002 19:08:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 55497 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2002 19:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Sep 2002 19:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailbox-15.st1.spray.net) (212.78.202.115) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2002 19:08:54 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (host213-121-71-4.surfport24.v21.co.uk [213.121.71.4]) by mailbox-15.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 429E520236 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:08:52 +0200 (DST) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] tu'o usage Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:10:32 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <125.16ccac89.2abb8510@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 15888 pc: > &: > << > There is a difference between claiming something and implying something. > This shows up, for example, if the whole sentence is negated. > >> > Does this mean that {tu'o broda cu brode} and {tu'o broda na brode} > both imply that there is only one broda, while {pa broda cu brode} > does and {pa broda na brode} does not. {tu'o broda cu brode} and {tu'o broda na brode} both imply that there is only one broda, while {lo pa broda cu brode} claims there is only one broda and {lo pa broda na brode} does not. Furthermore, {lo pa broda na brode} is true if there is not only one broda, while {tu'o broda na brode} is true only if tu'o broda na brode. > That, if true, would be a reason for using {tu'o}. Indeed. > I can't think of any reason to think it is true in Lojban (but > then, I have no idea what {tu'o} means in Lojban). It's a dummy word, similar to, say, zi'o. It has no meaning. --And.