From phma@webjockey.net Mon Oct 28 20:19:30 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 29 Oct 2002 04:19:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 66082 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 04:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Oct 2002 04:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 04:19:30 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 186Nqe-00056y-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:19:24 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 186NqV-00056g-00; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:19:16 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=neofelis.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 186NqQ-00056X-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:19:10 -0800 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id A912F3C6A9; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:18:35 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Non-logical (incidental) "if"? Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:18:30 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <200210282232.RAA20836@mail2.reutershealth.com> <3DBDCBC3.8060401@bilkent.edu.tr> In-Reply-To: <3DBDCBC3.8060401@bilkent.edu.tr> X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02102823183007.03221@neofelis> X-archive-position: 2360 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 16842 On Monday 28 October 2002 18:44, Robin Turner wrote: > That's logically correct, but not very, er, Gricean. This calls for an > attitudinal, not a logical connector, I think. How about a preposition? mi klama le zarci seti'i lenu do kansa mi klama le zarci fau da'i lenu do kansa mu'omi'e pier.