From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Thu Oct 10 06:38:18 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_0); 10 Oct 2002 13:38:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 56837 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 13:38:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Oct 2002 13:38:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2002 13:38:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 17zdZk-00046g-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:42:04 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zdXD-00045b-00; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:39:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk ([193.61.255.3]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17zdX7-00045I-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:39:23 -0700 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:02:11 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:35:34 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 14:35:03 +0100 To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: [Announcement] The Alice Translation Has Moved And Changed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 2105 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: And Rosta Reply-To: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 16590 Jay: #> I dislike that convention (starting sentences on new lines) because it #> violates centuries of established typographical tradition. Instead I #> insert two or three spaces before {i}. The extra whitespace serves #> as a visual cue to the sentence boundaries, while at the same time #> respecting typographical tradition and keeping violations of #> audiovisual isomorphism to a minimum. # #Typographic tradition is per-language, or at least per-language family. #Lojban has none. Lojban has inherited none. Typographic tradition is per script. Lojban did not create its own script. It borrowed the roman alphabet. #If arbitrary typographic traditions are acceptable, then there is #every reason to assert that we ought to be writing it top to bottom #right to left, like the kanji-using languages. Or maybe you meant to #say "western european typographic tradition". Or "typographic #tradition that suits me". I meant "roman alphabet-using typographic tradition". For Lojban written in arabic script, the arabic script tradition applies. Same for Lojban in katakana. And so forth. --And.