From phma@webjockey.net Thu Oct 17 20:21:12 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_2_1); 18 Oct 2002 03:21:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 50104 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2002 03:21:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2002 03:21:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2002 03:21:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 182Nm2-0001HG-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:26:06 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182NlS-0001Gt-00; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:25:30 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 208-150-110-21-adsl.precisionet.net ([208.150.110.21] helo=neofelis.ixazon.lan) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 182NlM-0001Gk-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:25:24 -0700 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id AFC843C479; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: zil Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:19:46 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02101723194601.28717@neofelis> X-archive-position: 2260 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 16742 On Thursday 17 October 2002 08:43, And Rosta wrote: li'o > An example: > > pikta > x1 is a ticket entitling x2 to entitlement/privilege x3 under conditions x4 > > zilpikta (< zilpavypikta) > x1 has right/entitlement/privilege x2 under conditions x3 I would normally use {zilbroda} for {broda fexiny zi'o} with n>1, what n is depending on the meaning of broda. So zilselcmi = zilrelselcmi = set (a thing which has members, except it might not because it could be the empty set). phma