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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@webjockey.net>
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On Tuesday 19 November 2002 07:58, Martin Norbäck wrote:
> tis 2002-11-19 klockan 13.30 skrev Pierre Abbat:
> But isn't it an absolute requirement that the tanru and the lujvo are
> special cases of the root gismu?
>
> If xajyfi'e (dolphin?) isn't a fish, then finpe cannot mean "fish", but
> perhaps "fish-like animal".
>
> And the gismu word-list says:
> x1 is a fish of species x2 [metaphorical extension to sharks, non-fish
> aquatic vertebrates]
>
> Why sharks are mentioned, I don't know, since they are true fish, but
> dolphins can be counted as non-fish aquatic vertebrates, as can penguins
> and crocodiles.
>
> So I don't buy the argument not to use the full gismu in a lujvo, the
> rafsi would mean the exact same thing.

"metaphorical extension" AFAIU means that it can be used with that meaning in 
a tanru, even if the gismu by itself doesn't mean that.

phma