From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Nov 25 08:01:21 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 25 Nov 2002 16:01:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 90912 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2002 16:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2002 16:01:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2002 16:01:20 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18GLfk-0004wi-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:01:20 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18GLfY-0004w9-00; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:01:08 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18GLfT-0004vu-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:01:04 -0800 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAPG8ZWF069917 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:08:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id gAPG8Z16069916 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:08:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:08:35 -0600 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Is .e == .ije? Message-ID: <20021125160835.GA69822@allusion.net> References: <001901c294a7$68b5f640$0300a8c0@avitallap> <3DE20F4B.3060000@bilkent.edu.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DE20F4B.3060000@bilkent.edu.tr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-archive-position: 2699 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 17192 --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:53:47PM +0200, robin wrote: > Avital Oliver wrote: > >Is always equivelant to >SUMTI2 cu SELBRI>? > > > >If so, then is equivelant to ? >=20 > My intuition tells me that they are not equivalent, since {mo} implies a= =20 > selbri which can be slotted into that place. If we translate it into=20 > logicalese, it would be {(I AND you) do-what}, or "What predicate can=20 > take the arguments "I" and "you"?" [...] It's equivalent after the respondant provides a predicate, though. (They have to provide the same predicate for both people (or at least that's what they're being asked for)). --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline [Attachment content not displayed.] --4Ckj6UjgE2iN1+kY--