From sentto-44114-17270-1038532072-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Nov 28 17:08:26 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:08:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.73]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18HZdn-0002A4-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:08:23 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17270-1038532072-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 57733 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2002 01:07:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2002 01:07:51 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id AF0B93C6E9; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:07:50 -0500 (EST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com Message-Id: <0211282007490E.02982@neofelis> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:07:49 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: [llg-members] Official Statement- LLG Board approves new baseline policy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2757 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thursday 28 November 2002 19:29, Nick Nicholas wrote: > To add: if there is ambiguity in CLL as to the shape of acceptable > fu'ivla etc., the BPFK can step in and disambiguate.. If the CLL > clearly states "shape X is experimental only", I don't think the BPFK > should make such experimental shapes official, since noone yet but > the petitioner has used those experimental shapes extensively (let's > be blunt here): the time for experimentality is not yet passed. The shape that CLL (or at least the refgram; I don't have a hardcopy CLL) says is experimental is a rafsi fu'ivla lujvo, including such forms as {tci'ilykemcantutra} and {glaukyne'o} which are accepted by both me and jbofi'e. As I read the refgram, {ala'um} is invalid, though I think it should be valid since {'um} is not a possible word, and {srutio}, {letcue}, and {damskrima} are all valid. I heard somewhere about a rule that a brivla cannot have four letters in a row which are consonants not in "mrnl", or something like that, but I don't see that in the refgram. The example I came up with when RPC was developing that part of jbofi'e was {matststststststsaka}. vlatai accepts {mastrstsrstaka}, which I find a lot harder to pronounce than {damskrima}, which it rejects. phma To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/