From sentto-44114-17171-1037884097-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Nov 21 05:28:32 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 21 Nov 2002 05:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.91]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18ErNd-0003RR-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 05:28:29 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17171-1037884097-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Nov 2002 13:08:17 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 21 Nov 2002 13:08:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 71801 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2002 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2002 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2002 13:08:16 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id DF3453C47F; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:08:12 -0500 (EST) To: X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <002c01c29130$ed6b86e0$929c07d5@oneof> In-Reply-To: <002c01c29130$ed6b86e0$929c07d5@oneof> X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com Message-Id: <0211210808010R.01930@neofelis> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:08:01 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Newbie says hi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2655 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Thursday 21 November 2002 02:36, Stefan \"1of3\" Koch wrote: > coi me'u ctefan-kox. > > mi nanmu dotco .i xabju la cnino bramalsi poi tcadu be'a la hamburg pe'e > lu'a le pa karce cacra .i mi jbena fi le detri be li re pi'e pare pi'e > pasobici {pe'e lu'a} makes no sense. I think what you mean is {la cnino bramalsi poi tcadu be'a la xamburg. va pa karce cacra}. > So I hope my attempt of introduction is understandable. It leads me to two > questions though. > > How does lojban handle names with more than one part (for example birth and > family name)? Using hyphens seem unlojbanic to me but making a pause is > AFAIK not allowed within a name. The only use of a hyphen in Lojban is that I've proposed it for abbreviations, e.g. {ti kg- li 49}. Names with more than one part are written with a period, e.g. ctefan.kox., kiseil.ictvan., painvil.bertikarolinas., gyngys.rirx., kot.divUAR. (aka la xantyde'i xaskoi). There is nothing in Lojban grammar to tell which part is what; you just have to know for each name. > How can I say "I'm 18 years old." I didn't find an appropriate brivla. And > expressing my birthdate seems unhandy. {mi nanca li 18}. This is an idiom; taken literally it refers to your whole lifespan, which you haven't finished so you don't know ledu'u do nanca li xo. phma To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/