From sentto-44114-18029-1039821610-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 15:20:45 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.85]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Mz6n-0000lM-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:20:41 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-18029-1039821610-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.97] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2002 23:20:10 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 77834 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.177) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:20:09 -0800 Received: from 200.69.2.52 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09.0728 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E053000:01C2A2FE] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.2.52] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:20:09 +0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Word resolution algorithm so far Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3540 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la kreig cusku di'e > >My preferrence would be to declare "y" next to a vowel > >impermissible always, just as "'" next to a consonant. > >Maybe for a full vowel, but yi and yu ought to be permissible dipthongs, >no? I can't pronounce them very easily, so I would prefer that they not be permitted. > >Also, I would prefer to restrict the appearance of "y" next > >to "'" to the word ".y'y" and nowhere else. > >That comes in very handy in cmene, when you want an ' sound. la maiky'elsem >uses it, for one example, and I've never seen you complain about that. Out >of names and y'y, however, it makes sense to ban it. I never liked it. Ideally for me names should not deviate from the morphology of ordinary words. I avoid "y" in names unless it is used to break an impermissible cluster. I think h-sounds should be lojbanized as "x" in names, not as "'", but that's just my preferrence. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/