From sentto-44114-17802-1039388039-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Dec 08 14:54:35 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:54:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.74]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18LAJi-0006u6-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2002 14:54:30 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17802-1039388039-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Dec 2002 22:53:59 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 8 Dec 2002 22:53:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 9242 invoked from network); 8 Dec 2002 22:53:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Dec 2002 22:53:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 22:53:59 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 1EC6F3C477; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:53:58 -0500 (EST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com Message-Id: <0212081753560B.19670@neofelis> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:53:56 -0500 Subject: [lojban] lervla valfendi preti Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 3312 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > 3) If the piece ends in "y", check for some lerfu words: specifically, > the last lerfu word of a string, if it ends in a "y" (e.g. /abubycydy/ > or /y'y/), must be followed by a pause: > a) If the "y" is preceded by a consonant, break off the consonant+"y" > as a resolved lerfu word (e.g. /abubycydy/ gives /abubycy/ unresolved, > and /dy/ resolved as a lerfu word). Continue breaking off any Cy > pieces as lerfu words if they're there (e.g. unresolved /abubycy/ > gives unresolved /abuby/ + resolved /cy/; then /abuby/ gives un- > resolved /abu/ plus resolved /by/). Following this rule as written on {ladjAndy} would give {la djan dy}, which is wrong. The consonant has to be preceded by a vowel or at the beginning of a piece. > Note that the Cy-type lerfu words will NEVER come before the other > lerfu word pieces in a breath-group - the "abu" and "y'y" types - > since they begin with vowels, they MUST be preceded by pauses; and Cy > followed by anything but another Cy must be followed by a pause > (because "y" is used as glue in lujvo, it could cause resolvability > problems if not separate; e.g. /micybusmAbru/ would not uniquely re- > solve). > b) If the "y" is preceded by "V'" or "y'" (e.g. /y'y/), break before > the "V", and the "V'y" is resolved as a lerfu word. Um, what is {a'y}? > c) If the "y" is preceded by an "i" or "u" ("iy" and "uy" are > reserved) the piece cannot be resolved. > d) If the "y" is preceded by a vowel (V) other than "i" or "u", the > piece is in error and cannot be further resolved. What are {iy} and {uy} reserved for? They can occur only in cmevla. phma To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/