From sentto-44114-17380-1038809230-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Dec 01 22:07:47 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 01 Dec 2002 22:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.104]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Ijk5-00028O-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2002 22:07:41 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-17380-1038809230-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Dec 2002 06:07:10 -0000 X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 2 Dec 2002 06:07:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 93014 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2002 06:07:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Dec 2002 06:07:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail2.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.151) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Dec 2002 06:07:09 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA16460 for ; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:19:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212020619.BAA16460@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:04:23 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 01:04:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [lojban] Re: Why we should cancel the vote or all vote NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 2867 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Robert LeChevalier scripsit: > I deny that the (existing) baseline encompasses semantics because the > semantics has not been defined. The semantics is *partly* defined, Bob. You conceded this years ago when I pointed out that the difference between "mi" and "do" (or "pa" and "re") is well defined, and is a matter of semantics, since they have identical syntax. Since there is no hope of *completely* defining the semantics, the most we can hope for is to increase the size of the partial definition. -- If you have ever wondered if you are in hell, John Cowan it has been said, then you are on a well-traveled http://www.ccil.org/~cowan road of spiritual inquiry. If you are absolutely http://www.reutershealth.com sure you are in hell, however, then you must be jcowan@reutershealth.com on the Cross Bronx Expressway. --Alan Feur, NYTimes, 2002-09-20 To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/