Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.43]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18J8KJ-0008Pd-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 00:22:43 -0800 Received: from paul ([62.252.240.94]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021203082239.JJYY7059.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@paul> for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:22:39 +0000 Message-ID: <00dd01c29aa5$22d59820$5ef0fc3e@dennett> From: "poldenet" To: Subject: [lojban] Another General Statement Of Support Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:21:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C29AA5.0086A2A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 2963 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: poldenet@ntlworld.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 7301 Lines: 191 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C29AA5.0086A2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree wholeheartedly with what Robin says below. Except that if the vote fails I will not be flaming anyone. I will = hovever be abandoning Lojban as unworthy of any more of my time. =20 I have been slogging my guts out for six months trying to learn Lojban = and I see no point in continuing if there is no interest in creating a = stable environment for learning the language. This means not only a = stable language design but also a community of users adhering to the = same basic design. If the vote fails I don't see how we are ever going = to achieve this. The analogy of Esperanto is an apt one. Look at how = well the Fundamento has served Esperanto. Then look at Ido. Paul Dennett ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robin Lee Powell=20 To: lojban-list@lojban.org=20 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: [lojban] General Statement Of Support As the people who have been voting yes to the new policy proposal (and I assure you, people *have* been voting yes) have largely been silent, let me speak up: I think that this policy proposal embodies an attitude and evinces a style of action that ameliorates the vast majority of my previous concerns about the leadershiplessness of the LLG. I think the board should be lauded for putting it together. -Robin PS: And if the vote fails, I will personally post flames, directed at the entire community, the likes of which you have never imagined. --=20 http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u jmaji le plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 ADVERTISEMENT =20 =20 =20 To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com=20 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 25/11/02 ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C29AA5.0086A2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I agree wholeheartedly with what Robin = says=20 below.

Except that if the vote fails I will = not be flaming=20 anyone. I will hovever be abandoning Lojban as unworthy of = any more=20 of my time.

I have been slogging my guts out for = six months=20 trying to learn Lojban and I see no point in continuing if there is no = interest=20 in creating a stable environment for learning the language. This = means not=20 only a stable language design but also a community of users adhering to = the same=20 basic design. If the vote fails I don't see how we are ever going = to=20 achieve this. The analogy of Esperanto is an apt one. Look = at how=20 well the Fundamento has served Esperanto. Then look at = Ido.

Paul Dennett

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Subject: [lojban] General Statement Of Support

As the people who have been voting yes to the new = policy=20 proposal (and I assure you, people *have* been voting yes) have = largely been=20 silent, let me speak up: I think that this policy proposal = embodies an=20 attitude and evinces a style of action that ameliorates the vast = majority of=20 my previous concerns about the leadershiplessness of the = LLG. I think=20 the board should be lauded for putting it = together. -Robin PS: And=20 if the vote fails, I will personally post flames, directed at the = entire=20 community, the likes of which you have never imagined. -- http://www.digitalkingd= om.org/~rlpowell/ =20 *** I'm a *male* Robin. .i le pamoi velru'e zo'u = jmaji le=20 plibu taxfu .i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e = prali=20 .uisai http://www.lojban.org/ =20 *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma = toi

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