From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Jan 30 14:07:16 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [65.246.141.151] (helo=mail2.reutershealth.com) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18eMpz-0002fi-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:07:11 -0800 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com ([10.65.117.21]) by mail2.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23618; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:19:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301302219.RAA23618@mail2.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:06:00 -0500 From: John Cowan Subject: [lojban] Re: loi preti be fi lo nincli zo'u tu'e To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:06:00 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030129175923.GC28812@digitalkingdom.org> from "Robin Lee Powell" at Jan 29, 2003 09:59:23 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 3963 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > And it turns out that either everyone who has discussed this is wrong, > or there is direct contradiction in the CLL! The contradiction is more verbal than actual. Prenexes have scope over ijeks; whether they have scope over i-connected sentences is a matter for pragmatic interpretation (technically no, in practice yes). I agree that the byfy should fix it, though. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan http://www.reutershealth.com Charles li reis, nostre emperesdre magnes, Set anz totz pleinz ad ested in Espagnes.