From sbelknap@UIC.EDU Thu Jan 09 03:14:11 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_0); 9 Jan 2003 11:14:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 84523 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 11:14:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2003 11:14:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 11:14:07 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.05) id 18WadT-00023D-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 03:14:07 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18WadQ-00022v-00; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 03:14:04 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Jan 2003 03:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from larch.cc.uic.edu ([128.248.155.164]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18WadG-00022V-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 03:13:54 -0800 Received: (qmail 30625 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 11:13:45 -0000 Received: from dial0-120.dialin.uic.edu (HELO uic.edu) (128.248.170.153) by larch.cc.uic.edu with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 11:13:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 05:13:49 -0600 Subject: [lojban] Re: open and save Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org In-Reply-To: <20030109091938.GK3954@digitalkingdom.org> Message-Id: <6DE4373F-23C3-11D7-97F6-000393629ED4@uic.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-archive-position: 3762 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sbelknap@uic.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Steven Belknap Reply-To: sbelknap@uic.edu X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810567 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 18228 On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:19 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:24:53PM -0500, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >> >>> I would vote for "vasru" since I perceive files as a kind of >>> container, too. >> >> I kind of agree, but a file is more simply a girzu of vreji or datni. >> >> Nora comments that while we focus so closely on "file", we should also >> focus on "open" and "closed". > > le samru'e cu cazyzga le datni vasru > > le samru'e cu nalzga le datni vasru > > -Robin le kalri vorme datni le ganlo vorme datni