From sentto-44114-18502-1044411964-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Tue Feb 04 18:26:44 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 04 Feb 2003 18:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.72]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18gFGo-0003gv-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 18:26:38 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-18502-1044411964-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2003 02:26:05 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 5 Feb 2003 02:26:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 50716 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2003 02:26:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Feb 2003 02:26:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 2003 02:26:03 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BB3C52639; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030203221325.00abe690@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030204153751.031fcec0@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030204153751.031fcec0@pop.east.cox.net> Message-Id: <200302042126.05978.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:26:05 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Lexing text with {fa'o} and {zoi} in it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4015 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tuesday 04 February 2003 15:48, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > At 06:48 AM 2/4/03 -0500, Pierre wrote: > >How would you lex the following?: > > My best guess, and I'm not using any algorithm per se. > > >/la xidEkel. rIrxe fa'o tIgri se li ni stIka lI te/ > > # and abort processing at this point. valfendi currently outputs what you say (plus type-of-word annotations). If it had fa'o-detection, it would lex it as /la xidEkel rIrxe fa'o tIgri selinistIkalIte/ with everything from /tIgri/ on resolved as foreign text. But the words after /fa'o/ are in fact /tIgris elinistI kalIte/, and if there were a Greek parser which saw an instruction to call the Lojban parser and then resume when the Lojban was finished, it would lose those three words, since the Lojban lexer cannot detect {fa'o} until it has read the end of the piece. That is why I think that {fa'o} should must be always followed by a pause: not because the algorithm can't lex it otherwise (it does, as well as lex some other illegally-pronounced phrases such as /kybuladjAn/) but because not putting a pause forces the algorithm to process text after the {fa'o} before it can detect the {fa'o}. phma To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/