From sentto-44114-18560-1044813834-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Feb 09 10:04:30 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:04:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.74]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 18hvoX-0005WV-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 10:04:25 -0800 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-18560-1044813834-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.199] by n19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2003 18:03:54 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 9 Feb 2003 18:03:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 26446 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2003 18:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Feb 2003 18:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.229) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2003 18:03:53 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 10:03:53 -0800 Received: from 200.69.6.26 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:03:53 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Feb 2003 18:03:53.0878 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B7DC360:01C2D065] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.26] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:03:53 +0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: sumtcita needed, badly. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4072 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la djorden cusku di'e >mi cusku lesedu'u do mi tavla >mi cusku lu'elu do mi tavla li'u >I say that you talked to me. > >mi cusku lu do mi tavla li'u >I say "You talked to me". Shouldn't the second one use "lu'e la'e lu ... li'u"? {lu'e} should take a proposition, not a text, I think. A text is not a symbol for another text. Also, the difference might be made more clear if you don't use {mi} as the subject: la djorden cusku le se du'u la camgusmis ra tavla Jordan said that Robin talked to him. la djorden cusku lu do mi tavla li'u Jordan said "You talked to me". la djorden cusku lu'e la'e lu la camgusmis la djorden tavla Jordan said words with the meaning of "Robin talked to Jordan". mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/