From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Feb 28 21:53:07 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_3_4); 1 Mar 2003 05:53:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 56895 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2003 05:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Mar 2003 05:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2003 05:53:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ozvk-0004EW-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:53:04 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ozvc-0004E8-00; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:52:56 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lakemtao02.cox.net ([68.1.17.243]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ozvN-0004Dl-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:52:41 -0800 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030301055209.XYAF6744.lakemtao02.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:52:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030301004252.034a21f0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 00:51:59 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Any (was: Nick will be with you shortly) In-Reply-To: <20030228181955.GT17252@digitalkingdom.org> References: <008501c2df2d$a69992c0$669dca3e@oemcomputer> <008501c2df2d$a69992c0$669dca3e@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 4257 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Robert LeChevalier Reply-To: lojbab@lojban.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 18723 At 10:19 AM 2/28/03 -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:31:06PM +0100, G. Dyke wrote: > > I'm not sure what this "Any" means. How does Edoctor(x)(need(me,x)) > > differ from "I need any doctor"? > >That's "There exists a doctor such that I need it". There may be other >constraints unspecified, defining what you need exactly, as I understand >it. All that says is that, whatever your needs, a doctor exists that >fills them. > >"I need any doctor" is "I need one thing selected at random from the set >of all doctors". > >Hey, that's what we need: a gadri that selects from a set at random. zasti mi nitcu pa la'i ro mikce I need (exactly) one from the set of all doctors This is based on the interpretation that originally justified la'i (Choose one from the set of coffee, tea, milk, soda, water). If la'i is interpreted as necessarily specific, then it solves nothing.) lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org