From ragnarok@pobox.com Tue Mar 11 11:31:33 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_1); 11 Mar 2003 19:31:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 46758 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2003 19:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Mar 2003 19:31:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2003 19:31:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 18spTI-0003Gu-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:31:32 -0800 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18spT6-0003GW-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:31:20 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.intrex.net ([209.42.192.250]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18spSq-0003GI-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:31:05 -0800 Received: from craig [209.42.200.67] by smtp.intrex.net (SMTPD32-7.13) id A95E150901EC; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:30:38 -0500 To: Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban.org #92] Re: Your lujvo records in Jbovlaste Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:30:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030311192724.GP5580@digitalkingdom.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Declude-Sender: ragnarok@pobox.com [209.42.200.67] X-archive-position: 4437 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ragnarok@pobox.com Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "Craig" Reply-To: ragnarok@pobox.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 18904 >> >> > >The lujvo definitions you are making in Jbovlaste are not according >> >> > >to standard. >> >> > > >> >> > >See http://www.lojban.org/jbovlaste/help/definitions.html >> >> > > >> >> > >The short version is that instead of x1, x2, etc., one uses place >> >> > >designators on the basis of the first letter(s) of the constituent >> >> > >gismu/cmavo. >> >> > >> >> > That standard doesn't work. You have no way of telling which order >> >> > the arguments are in the lujvo. You can't just assume order of >> >> > appearance, because sometimes the definition needs to have them in a >> >> > different order than the lujvo. >> >> >Umm, where did you get all that text that you're replying to? I'd like >> >to be in on whatever discussion that was. >> >> Oddly, I didn't even get the reply you were replying to. >No, you didn't. 8) >In came in to the request tracker. Ah. I was worried the list was being really screwy today. Guess not.