From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Apr 30 09:38:56 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net ([68.1.17.241]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19AubU-0006U6-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:38:44 -0700 Received: from lojban.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030430163814.JUKS13930.lakemtao04.cox.net@lojban.lojban.org> for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:38:14 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030430122931.03758840@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:38:02 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org From: Robert LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Re: BPFK phpbb In-Reply-To: <20030430055428.78008075.rizen@surreality.us> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030430074415.03f0a350@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030430074415.03f0a350@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 5055 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list At 05:54 AM 4/30/03 -0700, bancus wrote: [unquotable due to GPG] dakau means exactly the same as makau, and was originally what we used. mikau means the same thing with the suggestion that "mi" is the value. ko'a djuno ledu'u mikau klama le zarci X knows who went to the store (it was me). which has a different emphasis/meaning than ko'a djuno ledu'u mi klama le zarci X knows that I went to the store. ko'a djuno ledu'u makau klama le zarci X knows who went to the store. This can be extended to have kau modify more than an individual word, as a UI can modify a construct: ko'a djuno ledu'u makau fasnu X knows what happened. ko'a djuno ledu'u lenu mi klama le zarci keikau fasnu X knows the event (my going to the store) that happened. That was all of course where things were 5-10 years ago. I won't pretend to understand where kau has gone since then, and whether these usages still fly. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org