From xod@thestonecutters.net Mon Apr 28 09:38:11 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 28 Apr 2003 16:38:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 18776 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2003 16:38:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2003 16:38:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2003 16:38:01 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19ABdg-0007oM-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:38:00 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ABdU-0007o3-00; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:37:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ABdC-0007nn-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:37:30 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h3SGbaAN035490 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:37:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h3SGbalV035487 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:37:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:37:36 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: BPFK phpbb In-Reply-To: <3EABE56C.70507@epfl.ch> Message-ID: <20030428122850.X32091-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 4975 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19454 On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, Gregory Dyke wrote: > And Rosta wrote: > > >tsali: > > > > > >>On Sun, 27 Apr 2003, And Rosta wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>[...] But it's unlikely that it will be > >>>practicable for me to participate unless I can compose > >>>contributions off-line with the freedom of composition > >>>that email offers > >>> > >>> > >>I don't understand why you find the phpbb lacking in "freedom of > >>composition". If you find it difficult to compose messages in an edit box > >>on the web, why don't you compose the posting in your favourite text > >>editor, and then cut-and-paste it into the forum? > >> > >> > > > >I don't want to go into details publicly here, because it will seem like > >a mere whinge. > > > > > I'll bitch for you despite the fact I don't cmima the BPFK: > > Although the sending by email of each new post is neat, I find it > altogether too much hastle to have to dial up my isp, login to the > forum, find where I want to put my post, write it out (something I'd > like to do offline so that I don't spend any money) and then dial up > again to repeat the whole messy process. It's difficult enough finding > the willpower to participate without adding complication. I find it hard to entertain complaints aimed at the very notion of a web based bbs. This is, in 2003, the mainstream, standard, and accepted way to conduct such business, and millions of people around the world are using them. Anyone who can't should work on improving their technology rather than asking everyone else to revert to weaker infrastructure. -- In an opinion poll conducted in early March by Zogby, 97% of Saudis said they had an unfavorable opinion of the US. "I think that underestimates it," said Awardh Badhi, a political scientist with the Faisal Center for Research and Islamic Studies.