From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Apr 22 08:24:00 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 22 Apr 2003 15:24:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 32231 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2003 15:24:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2003 15:24:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2003 15:24:00 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 197zcm-0005lE-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:24:00 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 197zca-0005ku-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:23:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman.arcor-online.net ([151.189.0.87]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 197zcQ-0005kl-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:23:39 -0700 Received: from hamwpne1 (pc1-oxfd1-5-cust27.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.134.27]) (authenticated bits=0) by postman.arcor-online.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h3MFNZps020888 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:23:36 +0200 (CEST) Organization: datenrevision GmbH & Co. OHG To: lojban-list@lojban.org Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 17:23:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [lojban] Lowest-scoring possible lujvo? Message-ID: <3EA57A8C.12294.180D729@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02a) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Mail message body X-archive-position: 4887 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pnewton@gmx.de Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Philip Newton" From: "Philip Newton" Reply-To: pnewton@gmx.de X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19366 What is the lowest score possible for a lujvo? Is it 5847, for lujvo of the form CVV/CCV such as {baupla}? That's 6000 (six letters) - 70 (CVV rafsi) - 60 (CCV rafsi) - 3 (three vowels). (Hm, looking through The Book, I see that CCV/CVV can also reach that count, e.g. {plabau} -- a planning language?) I don't think that can be improved on since you can't have CVVCVV without a hyphen in the middle (for the two-consonant crunch in the first five letters), which would ruin the score, and you can't have more vowels without adding more letters. But I could be wrong. Can someone come up with a lower-scoring lujvo? mu'o mi'e .filip. -- filip.niutyn.