From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 30 19:21:10 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 1 May 2003 02:21:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 9476 invoked from network); 1 May 2003 02:21:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 May 2003 02:21:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 May 2003 02:21:09 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19B3h7-0007mQ-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 19:21:09 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19B3gv-0007m5-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 19:20:57 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Apr 2003 19:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ([66.68.125.184] ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19B3gm-0007lw-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 19:20:49 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h412Wlsr018015 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:32:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.6p2/8.12.3/Submit) id h412WkSN018014 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:32:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 21:32:46 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lujvo frequency list Message-ID: <20030501023246.GA17923@allusion.net> References: <20030430024227.GA13634@mit.edu> <20030430164114.GT20953@digitalkingdom.org> <20030430180844.GA6200@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030430180844.GA6200@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-archive-position: 5079 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19558 --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 02:08:44PM -0400, Rob Speer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 09:41:15AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > That's odd, since I for one consistently use djisku, on the grounds > > that the appropriate tanru is djica cusku, as in "xu do djica cusku > > lu mi na klama li'u". >=20 > For the tanru, you want the base word to be {djica}, because "want to > say" is a type of want more than it is an act of saying. But you want > the place structure of cusku. As a tanru it would best be {cusku co > djica}; as a lujvo, the place structure falls nicely into place for > {skudji}. >=20 > The fully expanded version is of course {djica le nu cusku}, but > generally {djica le nu broda} gets tanru-ized as {broda djica}. Actually "djica tu'a lo nu cusku". --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline [Attachment content not displayed.] --VS++wcV0S1rZb1Fb--