From phma@webjockey.net Wed Apr 16 03:48:14 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 60077 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 10:48:14 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 88FFB2E27; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: mi'e Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 06:48:16 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200304160648.16769.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19274 On Wednesday 16 April 2003 05:23, sshiskom wrote: > > .i le segugdrkoria cu kakne nu facki le du'u kau dzena kau > > ri'a la'e di'u > > It was parsed by jbofi'e, but with wrong semantics. Of course, > {nu facki} needs {le} in front of it! And it seems {segugdrkoria} > is not recognized as I intended... Should I say {selgugdrkoria}, > using lujvo {selgugde}? A type-3 fu'ivla can't be made with two rafsi. This has been tried and found unworkable. (I'm not sure what the counterexample was, but the attempt I remember having been tried was *{selgernrotfaila}.) Some fu'ivla can workably be given long rafsi and made into lujvo. There are two proposals for this: one is in the Book, and the other (by me) is on the wiki. But all rafsi fu'ivla end in a single vowel, which {gugdrkoria} doesn't. I suggest that {gugdrkoria} and other type-3 fu'ivla denoting countries have the same place structure as {gugde}. (Type-4 fu'ivla such as {magjaro} have the same place structure as {fraso}.) Then you can say {se gugdrkoria} and mean what you mean.