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From: Jordan DeLong <fracture@allusion.net>
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Subject: [lojban] Re: Some ideas/questions (long)
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On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 10:49:57AM +0800, tk1@despammed.com wrote:
> Hello all,
> [Robert LeChevalier:]
> > over to TLI.  Prothero in particular invented the use of the "error" to=
ken
> > to define elidable terminators which is a key feature that TLI Loglan a=
nd
> > Lojban both share.  Prothero expressly gave us permission in case it pr=
oved
>=20
> Apologies for hijacking this thread, but upon hearing about this use of t=
he
> "error" token, I am starting to feel somewhat uncomfortable. Specifically=
, I
> fear that using such strange hacks will make it harder to explain (and
> grasp) intuitively when certain words can be elided, without referring to=
 a
> specific 1970's parsing technology.
>=20
> (I am thinking of utterances such as ".i le gerku jersi le mlatu fa'o"
> without "cu" before "jersi" -- this can be `intuitively' construed as a
> garden-path utterance for "The dog chases the cat", but will be rejected =
by
> an LALR(1) parser.)

This is a feature.  That sentence actually means "The doggedly
chaser.  The cat."

What exactly is your complaint?

--=20
Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net
lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u
                                     sei la mark. tuen. cusku

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