From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed May 14 15:59:11 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 14 May 2003 15:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web20506.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.226.141]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19G5D8-00022F-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:58:58 -0700 Message-ID: <20030514225857.67539.qmail@web20506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.69.2.52] by web20506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:58:57 PDT Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: Alternative Orthography. Yes, another one. To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20030514214459.GI3216@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 5258 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la camgusmis cusku di'e > I mean, seriously. The language adds, what, 23 symbols?, just to > represent syllabic stress. It's ridiculous. I only use five: A, E, I, O and U. > My proposal is that syllabic stress be marked by a single character > before or during the syllable to be stressed. I don't care what > character is used, but I'm going to suggest ! as a starting point. Syllable boundaries are not well defined in Lojban, so I would suggest putting it always before the vowel to be stressed (not necessarily immediately before, though). > .IBraxim. becomes: > > .!ibraxim. or .i!braxim. instead of The last one could be .iBRAxim. > juLIET.binOC. becomes: > > ju!liet.bin!oc. or juli!et.bino!c. or whatever. Splitting the diphthong like that doesn't seem like a good idea, it suggests juli,et to me. > MUStafas.keMAL. becomes: > > !mustafas.ke!mal. > > (shouldn't that be "MUSTafas" anyways?). Or MUstafas too. They are all allowed. I prefer mUstafas. > Note that despite allowing the character to appear within the > syllable (as that is clearly unambiguous), I don't think that's > actually a good idea: putting it at the front gives the reader > warning. > > Comments? I think it does look a little better than the capital letters. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com