From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 27 13:41:24 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9762 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 20:32:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 May 2003 20:32:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 20:32:05 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19Kl77-00058C-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:32:05 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Kl70-00057t-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:31:58 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Kl6r-00057g-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:31:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B568631F00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:31:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp103.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.103]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF2027F4C for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:31:11 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3ED3E87D.10403@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 23:36:45 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Symbiosis and related topics References: <20030527202349.59952.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030527202349.59952.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 5466 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Turner From: Robin Turner Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19946 Jorge Llambías wrote: > la sanxiyn cusku di'e > > >>If my understanding is correct, >>"commensalism" does not mean that the arrangement is commensal: >>it just means what it is. (I am not specialized in this area! Do >>not ask me how _exactly_ commensalism is defined.) > > > Etymologically "commensal" means co-tabler, one who shares > the table. Commensalism is a symbiotic relationship where one > of the species benefits and the other is unaffected, so one of > the species is welcome to the table of the other, as it were. Interesting. In Turkish "komensal" just means "parasite", and is often used metaphorically; e.g. "komensal hayat" is an unproductive life lived at the expense of others. robin.tr -- "A Perl script is "correct" if it gets the job done before your boss fires you." - Larry Wall Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin