From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Mon May 26 08:58:16 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70929 invoked from network); 26 May 2003 15:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 May 2003 15:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 May 2003 15:58:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19KKMY-0004ff-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 26 May 2003 08:58:14 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KKMP-0004es-00; Mon, 26 May 2003 08:58:05 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 26 May 2003 08:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lmsmtp03.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.113]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KKMA-0004cB-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 26 May 2003 08:57:50 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host81-7-58-174.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.58.174]) by lmsmtp03.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B1B3CF0D for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 17:57:17 +0200 (MEST) To: Subject: [lojban] Re: Aspie Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:56:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200305260914.30623.phma@webjockey.net> X-archive-position: 5413 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: "And Rosta" Reply-To: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=122260811 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19893 Pierre: > On Monday 26 May 2003 07:49, And Rosta wrote: > > Something based on "toljikca cizra", 'anti-sociably bizarre'? > > I'm not anti-social, I'm somewhat socially inept. That's why I wrote "anti-sociably" and not "anti-socially". "toljikca" = "polar opposite of socializing". > And I don't find aspieness bizarre, and AFAICT most people I know don't > either - "cizra" = "unusual, strange". If aspergers were not unusual & noteworthy it would not be a named condition. "Remarkworthily strange by virtue of comparative deficit in social abilities" strikes me as a fairly good one-phrase summary of aspergerism. For extreme autism, the idea of not seeing beyond oneself might be apter. > they enjoy my puns and > are astonished that I remember such facts as {li refi'uci du li zai > misrysnile'u bu tei moklu bu re foi}, which came up in Bible study recently > when reading that Elisha asked Elijah for pi-shnayim of his power > > See http://www.toseland.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DIS/specific/asperger.htm for > characteristicts of aspies For those who accept the notion of the autism continuum, I reckon most lojbanists probably fall towards the autistic end to a statistically significant degree. Certainly my wife & some friends describe me as 'autistic' (or 'Mekon'/'Vulcan'), which is nonsense in clinical terms, but not nonsense as a way of characterizing certain salient personality traits. --And.