From lojbab@lojban.org Tue May 27 20:29:35 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 70227 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 03:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 May 2003 03:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2003 03:29:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19Krd7-0007Th-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 27 May 2003 20:29:33 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Krd1-0007TO-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 20:29:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 27 May 2003 20:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao01.cox.net ([68.1.17.244]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Krcs-0007TE-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 20:29:18 -0700 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao01.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030528032846.JGPW8337.lakemtao01.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 23:28:46 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030527232018.03b86400@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 23:28:13 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: emotions In-Reply-To: <20030527191445.GC21909@digitalkingdom.org> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030524002114.03f61b10@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030523180338.036497d0@pop.east.cox.net> <20030523194202.GC7476@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030523180338.036497d0@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030524002114.03f61b10@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 5472 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Robert LeChevalier Reply-To: lojbab@lojban.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19953 At 12:14 PM 5/27/03 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: >On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 12:32:13AM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > At 03:28 PM 5/23/03 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > >> >What's a dictionary for? :) > > >> > > > >> >http://www.lojban.org/jbovlaste/dict/parji > > >> > > >> Maybe he, like me, refuses to recognize words that are not > > >> Lojban. > > >> > > >> BTW, the inclusion of such things in jvovlaste means that I for > > >> one have no particular interest in using the thing. It cannot > > >> be a standard for the language until the byfy decides to weed > > >> out the garbage. > > > > > >You've just rejected something on the order of 80 man-hours on > > >the basis of a *single* *word*. > > > > It did unfortunately happen to be the first word I've ever looked > > up. > >As xod once said, "And you admit this publically?" Yes. And I should feel no embarrassment about it when everyone is so insistent that it isn't "official". After all, we know that I have more than enough to do on official stuff. > > I can't help it that I feel extreme revulsion when it seems like > > my 15 years of fighting for a solid baseline, with clear > > delineation between valid and invalid usage according to the > > language prescription, is being undermined. > >Did you even go to the link? Right at the top it says "experimental >gismu". Yes. I did not see it at first, and "experimental" does not mean "invalid according to the prescription", since other experiments are condoned in the baseline. And that line is only visible if you call up the word directly. It doesn't show up when you use search of click on a reference to the word elsewhere. >Jay and I have discussed the experimental issue, btw, and we've >agreed that the Right Way to handle experimental words is to allow >people to enter them all they want, but disallow them from appearing >in the best guesses listing (which, by extension, stops them from >appearing in the dictionary). > >This change will be implemented the next time I get a chance to work >on jbovlaste. If you can have the "experimental gismu" show up on the search and cross-reference per above that would also help. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org