From jcowan@reutershealth.com Wed May 28 07:51:54 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 68940 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 14:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 May 2003 14:51:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.36) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2003 14:51:54 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (mail [65.246.141.36]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17129; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 28 May 2003 10:52:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:52:49 -0400 To: tk1@despammed.com Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Beginner's take on the open/closed gismu debate (was: Re: emotions) Message-ID: <20030528145249.GQ30776@skunk.reutershealth.com> References: <200305281400.JAA20752@despammed.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200305281400.JAA20752@despammed.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19963 tk1@despammed.com scripsit: > forall x (nanmu(x) <=> (remna(x) /\ exists y exists z nakni(x, y, z))) roda zo'u da nanmu .ijo tu'e da remna .ija de di zo'u da de di nakni > (Ah! I think I got it.) I tried reading up Chapter 16 of the Reference > Grammar to see how to put the above into Lojban, but apparently the material > is incomplete -- there is no mention on how to group subexpressions, what > scopes quantifiers have, etc. Quantifiers scope from their position to the end of the tu'e-tu'u group (sentence logical parens) or to the next .i, ni'o, etc. -- He made the Legislature meet at one-horse John Cowan tank-towns out in the alfalfa belt, so that jcowan@reutershealth.com hardly nobody could get there and most of http://www.reutershealth.com the leaders would stay home and let him go http://www.ccil.org/~cowan to work and do things as he pleased. --Mencken, _Declaration of Independence_