From lojbab@lojban.org Tue May 27 03:06:26 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75188 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 May 2003 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakemtao03.cox.net) (68.1.17.242) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org ([68.100.92.1]) by lakemtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20030527100624.EUMQ23518.lakemtao03.cox.net@bob.lojban.org> for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 06:06:24 -0400 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030527060203.03007240@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rlechevalier@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 06:05:26 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Parasite In-Reply-To: References: <007501c32422$6c8b6ab0$8d9eb280@ic.intranet.epfl.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Robert LeChevalier X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19921 At 08:16 AM 5/27/03 +0000, sshiskom wrote: >G. Dyke wrote: > > I don't so much object to ji'etcu being definded as "parasite" -- > > although I can[sic] think of better alternatives - as to Bob's >-- Isn't it "can't"? If not, suggest one! > > unwarranted enthusiasm faced with a Korean calque as opposed to the > > English calques we see so often. > >I agree that {jmive} is not "saeng" as in "gisaeng", and use of the >same word for both concept of "alive" and "organic" is culture-centric, >metaphorical, therefore maybe non-lojbanic. It is actually quite Lojbanic, in that jmive includes all tenses of alive, including pu jmive, and ba jmive, which probably cover most senses of "organic". We would not use the word "jmive" for something morsi EXCEPT in Lojban %^) lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org