From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 27 07:00:37 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87372 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 14:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 May 2003 14:00:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 14:00:35 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19Kf0E-0006kD-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:00:34 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Kezc-0006iV-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 06:59:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 27 May 2003 06:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs24349-133.austin.rr.com ([24.243.49.133] helo=cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com ident=root) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Keyt-0006gF-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 06:59:11 -0700 Received: from cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (asdf@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4REB867024173 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 09:11:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from fracture@cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com) Received: (from fracture@localhost) by cs6668125-184.austin.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h4REB8kT024172 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 09:11:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 09:11:08 -0500 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Beginner's take on the open/closed gismu debate (was: Re: emotions) Message-ID: <20030527141108.GA23729@allusion.net> References: <20030527044429.GA1170@panda.localdomain> <20030527091203.P27366-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> <20030527135338.GB21194@localhost.nv.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030527135338.GB21194@localhost.nv.cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 5449 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: fracture@allusion.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Jordan DeLong From: Jordan DeLong Reply-To: fracture@allusion.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19929 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 09:53:38AM -0400, tbovee@daypoems.net wrote: > Speaking as an absolute beginner, aren't lujvo by definition a nonce > construction? And isn't that a good thing, because it allows the > writer to express concepts unlimited by dictionaries and Academies > of Language? You're thinking of tanru. Tanru are a good thing. Lujvo are supposed to be defined with specific meanings and place structures. Anyone can create them, but they should not be viewed as nonce words. --=20 Jordan DeLong - fracture@allusion.net lu zo'o loi censa bakni cu terzba le zaltapla poi xagrai li'u sei la mark. tuen. cusku --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline [Attachment content not displayed.] --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG--