From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 27 02:12:39 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 68226 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 09:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 May 2003 09:12:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 09:12:38 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19KaVT-0003QG-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 27 May 2003 02:12:33 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KaTh-0003Pl-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 02:10:41 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 27 May 2003 02:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail0.epfl.ch ([128.178.50.57]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KaQQ-0003P9-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 02:07:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 875 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 09:07:14 -0000 Received: from icin2pc41.epfl.ch (HELO ICIN2PC41W) (128.178.158.141) by mail0.epfl.ch with SMTP; 27 May 2003 09:07:14 -0000 Message-ID: <00ac01c3242f$5d47df40$8d9eb280@ic.intranet.epfl.ch> To: References: <1054002208.941.90505.m9@yahoogroups.com> <20030527044429.GA1170@panda.localdomain> Subject: [lojban] Re: Beginner's take on the open/closed gismu debate (was: Re: emotions) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:07:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-archive-position: 5439 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: "Gregory Dyke" From: "Gregory Dyke" Reply-To: gregory.dyke@epfl.ch X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19919 > With regard to the current debate on whether gismu should be open or closed, > I am not very sure what my position is, but I think a more pernicious > problem is the tendency for some users to introduce nonce lujvo (e.g. in > Chapter 2 of "Alice in Wonderland", I see the word "camri'ojvebla" (?!?)). Trust me, that was easy: I have a vague knowledge of very few rafsi and I can recognize maybe half the gismu, but I can recognize "intense green and blue" easily. I am worried that this became a lujvo. Is it for meter or something? why wasn't it just carmi crino je(bo) blanu ? mu'o