From tk1@despammed.com Thu May 29 09:19:36 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: tk1@despammed.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 37973 invoked from network); 29 May 2003 16:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 May 2003 16:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (203.125.34.145) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 May 2003 16:09:52 -0000 Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 501) id 30F6822882; Fri, 30 May 2003 00:13:14 +0800 (SGT) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:13:14 +0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: antiblotation (was: RE: taksi) Message-ID: <20030529161314.GC1204@panda.localdomain> References: <1054200714.311.79293.m12@yahoogroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1054200714.311.79293.m12@yahoogroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Return-Receipt-To: c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net From: tk1@despammed.com Reply-To: tk1@despammed.com, c1tk@c1tk.cjb.net, c1tk@yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=134553381 X-Yahoo-Profile: c1tk X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19987 [Robert LeChevalier:] > Nora likes to treat all Lojban predicates as being verblike. Thus your > question is better expressed: Is a taxicab sans passenger "taxicabbing" > now, and I don't think that it is. Most likely, it is "once and future > taxicabbing" %^) I looked up my NLP textbook (Jurafsky & Martin, "Speech and Language Processing") to see how the ancients tackled this problem. Reportedly, the solution was simply to avoid making too many role commitments, instead tagging on roles via extra predicates as and when needed. Personally, I have always seen predicates as types of assertions: a predicate combined with arguments says something about a particular moment of the world, frozen Matrix-style. Perhaps this is because I have always been interested in true/false issues... Thanks, -- GPG:f75949318a026c5707ff188b438cca87faf73a82 http://angelfire.com/folk/sm0p/ GCS/MU d- s: a- C++() UL P++(+++) L++(+++) E- W++ N(+) o K? w--- O? M? V? PS(+) PE Y+ PGP+ t? 5? X- R- tv-() b+ DI(+) D+ G e++ h-- !r>+++ !y