From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Wed May 28 16:36:06 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49330 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 23:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 May 2003 23:36:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2003 23:36:05 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19LASj-0002AL-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 28 May 2003 16:36:05 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LASO-00029z-00; Wed, 28 May 2003 16:35:44 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 28 May 2003 16:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41903.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.154]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19LASC-00029h-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 28 May 2003 16:35:32 -0700 Message-ID: <20030528184529.99251.qmail@web41903.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41903.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2003 11:45:28 PDT Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: Beginner's take on the open/closed gismu debate (was: Re: emotions) To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <200305281400.JAA20752@despammed.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 5493 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19974 --- tk1@despammed.com wrote: > [Jorge Llambías:] > > i ua le cmalu krokodilo > > cu zengau le ky rebla > > si'u le djacu pe la nilos > > le ka camri'ojvebla > [...] > > I am thinking of replacing the last two words with e.g. "solji skapi"... > which still leaves two syllables for random interjections. But it won't rhyme with rebla... > forall x (nanmu(x) <=> (remna(x) /\ exists y exists z nakni(x, y, z))) > > (Ah! I think I got it.) I tried reading up Chapter 16 of the Reference > Grammar to see how to put the above into Lojban, but apparently the material > is incomplete -- there is no mention on how to group subexpressions, what > scopes quantifiers have, etc. That would be something like: ro da zo'u go da nanmu gi ge da remna gi su'o de su'o di zo'u da de di nakni mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com