From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 27 12:39:21 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14766 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 19:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 May 2003 19:15:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 19:15:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19Kjua-0004ND-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:15:04 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19KjuQ-0004Mc-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:14:54 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 27 May 2003 12:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19KjuH-0004MR-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:14:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:14:45 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: emotions Message-ID: <20030527191445.GC21909@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030523180338.036497d0@pop.east.cox.net> <20030523194202.GC7476@digitalkingdom.org> <5.2.0.9.0.20030523180338.036497d0@pop.east.cox.net> <5.2.0.9.0.20030524002114.03f61b10@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030524002114.03f61b10@pop.east.cox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 5455 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19938 On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 12:32:13AM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > At 03:28 PM 5/23/03 -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> >What's a dictionary for? :) > >> > > >> >http://www.lojban.org/jbovlaste/dict/parji > >> > >> Maybe he, like me, refuses to recognize words that are not > >> Lojban. > >> > >> BTW, the inclusion of such things in jvovlaste means that I for > >> one have no particular interest in using the thing. It cannot > >> be a standard for the language until the byfy decides to weed > >> out the garbage. > > > >You've just rejected something on the order of 80 man-hours on > >the basis of a *single* *word*. > > It did unfortunately happen to be the first word I've ever looked > up. As xod once said, "And you admit this publically?" > I can't help it that I feel extreme revulsion when it seems like > my 15 years of fighting for a solid baseline, with clear > delineation between valid and invalid usage according to the > language prescription, is being undermined. Did you even go to the link? Right at the top it says "experimental gismu". > >Go stick your head in a pig. > > I am not rejecting the man-hours. I'm sure you and Jay have done > a Very Good Thing. > > As a dictionary it is useless to me until the non-standard words > are excluded. See above. Jay and I have discussed the experimental issue, btw, and we've agreed that the Right Way to handle experimental words is to allow people to enter them all they want, but disallow them from appearing in the best guesses listing (which, by extension, stops them from appearing in the dictionary). This change will be implemented the next time I get a chance to work on jbovlaste. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "but I'm not stupid and people are not stupid who think samely with me" -- from an actual, real, non-spam mail sent to webmaster@lojban.org http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui