From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri May 23 11:23:02 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 23384 invoked from network); 23 May 2003 18:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 May 2003 18:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 May 2003 18:23:02 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19JHC2-0001gp-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 23 May 2003 11:23:02 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19JHBq-0001gJ-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 11:22:50 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 23 May 2003 11:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19JHBf-0001g8-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 11:22:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:22:39 -0700 To: Eddy Ohlms Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: emotions Message-ID: <20030523182238.GZ3216@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: Eddy Ohlms , lojban-list@lojban.org References: <3ECE60A4.E91BE71C@nothnbut.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3ECE60A4.E91BE71C@nothnbut.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 5357 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19837 On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:55:48PM -0500, Eddy Ohlms wrote: > How do you express emotions with a language that is logical? In the case of Lojban, very effectively. In fact, the amazing facility of the emotive words is one of the reasons I stuck with the language. > How can we speak a logical language if we are not logical? Well, I can't speak for you, but some of the people on the main list are so logical it makes my head hurt. 8) But, in fact, you shouldn't have to understand formal logic to speak Lojban, at least at a concious level. Or at least, we think so. That's a question that won't be answered until there are native speakers. > Emotions can not be expressed unambiguiously. Sure they can! "I love you" and "I hate you" are both *very* unambiguous. But just because Lojban's underlying *grammer* is unambiguous doesn't mean that you can't express complicated or strange or meaningless things with it. lo gerku cu zdani -- A dog is a house. -Robin -- Me: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin. "but I'm not stupid and people are not stupid who think samely with me" -- from an actual, real, non-spam mail sent to webmaster@lojban.org http://www.lojban.org/ *** .i cimo'o prali .ui