From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue May 13 04:34:17 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_6); 13 May 2003 11:34:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 52943 invoked from network); 13 May 2003 11:34:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 May 2003 11:34:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2003 11:34:13 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19FY2v-0000rP-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 13 May 2003 04:34:13 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FY2o-0000r5-00; Tue, 13 May 2003 04:34:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 13 May 2003 04:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.26] helo=mwinf0504.wanadoo.fr) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19FY2g-0000qt-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 13 May 2003 04:33:58 -0700 Received: from free.fr (unknown [81.53.130.38]) by mwinf0504.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7948D100038C for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 13:33:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 13:33:20 +0200 Subject: [lojban] Language vs. tongue? (was: native language) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis In-Reply-To: <200305130638.44005.phma@webjockey.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-archive-position: 5235 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jexOm@free.fr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: jexOm. From: jexOm. Reply-To: jexOm@free.fr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 19715 Hello, A little off-topic, but it is a question I always have when reading articles about linguistics in English. What is the difference between a "language" and a "tongue"? Is lojban a language or a tongue? To me, it's a tongue, but I very often read "language" instead. To me, a language is more a whole category of communication means (like signs, music, etc). Thanks, Jérôme.