From sentto-44114-20077-1054610882-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Jun 02 20:28:43 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.76]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19N2TU-0003xN-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:28:36 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-20077-1054610882-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2003 03:28:04 -0000 X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51621 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 03:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jun 2003 03:27:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blackcat.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 03:27:38 -0000 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D34D044A9; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 03:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis To: User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <200306022327.36574.phma@webjockey.net> From: Pierre Abbat MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:27:36 -0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-archive-position: 5574 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@webjockey.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Monday 02 June 2003 21:25, And Rosta wrote: > Heaven forfend that we should perpetuate the notion that the former > is not colloquial, since overt prenexes are often unavoidable, except > by not saying what one really means. > > Seriously, zo'u is *the* way. The Lojban design provides a way to > say it, and zo'u is it. So the answer to your question is to > make zo'u colloquial. Then it's easy to say in colloquial Lojban. What I'm thinking is {ci da zo'u mi viska lo gerku}, or the slightly more wordy {ci selge'u zo'u mi viska lo gerku}. I have a similar construction in a partially written article about flatfishes: {so'a se mlafi'e pa mlana zo'u so'a mlafi'e cu limna fi'o galtu}. phma -- .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga .icu'u la ma'atman. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/