From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Wed Jun 04 08:28:41 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52756 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2003 15:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jun 2003 15:28:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2003 15:28:35 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19NaBn-0001NY-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:28:35 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NaBf-0001Mn-00; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:28:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from com1.uclan.ac.uk ([193.61.255.3]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NaBN-0001Lt-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:28:09 -0700 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:28:45 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:30:01 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 16:29:39 +0100 To: lojban-list Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 5599 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: And Rosta Reply-To: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20080 xod to xorxes: #> I don't really base it on any understanding of stereotypes. # #For most people, there can be any number of stereotypical dogs, and each #one they refer to as le'e gerku. For you, le'e gerku is the stereotype #itself, of which there can only be one. (Let's not get distracted with the #boundary cases.) The issue is not to do with understanding of stereotypes. It is to do with whether le'e has anything to do with stereotypes. If le'e is to lo'e as e-gardri are to their o-gadri counterparts, then le'e would not mean "the stereotypical". So there is a kind of inconsistency in CLL, in that le'e is semantically irregular. This is one of the things the BF will be looking at. --And.