From xod@thestonecutters.net Tue Jun 03 10:44:45 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 97061 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2003 17:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Jun 2003 17:44:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2003 17:44:41 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19NFpx-0006lu-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:44:41 -0700 Received: from digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175] helo=chain) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NFpq-0006lb-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:44:34 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.111.194.10] (helo=granite.thestonecutters.net) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19NFpg-0006lP-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 10:44:25 -0700 Received: from granite.thestonecutters.net (localhost.thestonecutters.net [127.0.0.1]) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h53Hefue030298 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:40:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) Received: from localhost (xod@localhost) by granite.thestonecutters.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h53HefA1030295 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:40:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xod@thestonecutters.net) X-Authentication-Warning: granite.thestonecutters.net: xod owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:40:41 -0400 (EDT) To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: I saw three kinds of dogs In-Reply-To: <200306031259.49849.phma@webjockey.net> Message-ID: <20030603133957.H24506-100000@granite.thestonecutters.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 5581 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list From: Invent Yourself Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20062 On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 03 June 2003 09:45, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > If we cannot assume that there were three things seen, how about the simple > > > > mi viska lu'e ci selgerku > > > > I think the issue here is that the English itself is vague and we aren't > > all that sure what we are tryingt o say. Once we know, saying it in Lojban > > isn't necessarily difficult. > > I think the way to say it is {ci selge'u zo'u mi viska}. It's vague, too, and > it's a shortening of the formal statement. But then how is it better than English? -- .o'i mu xagji sofybakni cu zvati le purdi [Caution!] There are five hungry Soviet cows in the garden!