From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Fri Jul 11 07:07:50 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41904.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.155]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.12) id 19ayYX-0004oy-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:07:25 -0700 Message-ID: <20030711140653.42819.qmail@web41904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:06:53 PDT Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: "Game", "Player" To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 5853 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la kreig cusku di'e > ni'o pamoi i ro prenu le tifkeinritli ka'e co'a kelci seti'u roda I think {pamai} is better than {pamoi i} here. {tifkeinritli} is a fu'ivla, {tifkeiritli} is the lujvo. r/n/l glue can only appear after an initial CVV rafsi. Shouldn't it be {e'a} rather than {ka'e}? > ni'o remoi i ro prenu ka'e finti le javni poi me ra enai ro drata i fau lenu > go'i le javni finti cu bilga lenu cusku le javini Again, ka'e -> e'a. {me ra enai ro drata} means "it is him/her and nobody else". If you mean "his/her own" I suggest {me ... moi}. I'd say: {ni'o remai e'a ro kelci cu finti lo me ri moi javni} "2nd. Every player may make his/her own rule(s)." It is not clear to me how "enai ro drata" would expand here. > ni'o cimoi i bai lenu le xabmau be loi javni be ro kelci ku ku cu tugni fi > ledu'u de fasnu ku ku fasnu (You don't need {ku ku} in front of {cu}.) You mean {loi javni pe ro kelci}, I suppose. But is that the mass of rules, each of which is associated with every player, or the mass of rules, each of which is associated with at least one player? And what does 'tugni' mean here? 'Explicitly coincide', or just 'not contradict'? Is it a majority of all rules, even rules that have nothing to do with the fasnu in question? > ni'o vomoi i lo ralju jvaste no'u ti cu srana ro kelci ija'e na seltro loi > kelci jvaste secau lenu pilno le cimoi ralju javni > > ni'o mumoi i lo ralju jvaste lo feimoi javni na ka'e ponse Does a liste ponse or vasru its members? Or something else? se cmima? mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com