From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jul 17 14:02:51 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 96651 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2003 21:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2003 21:02:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2003 21:02:50 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19dFtq-0002L1-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:02:50 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19dFti-0002KT-00; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:02:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr ([139.179.30.24]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19dFtV-0002Dk-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:02:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5476F31FE6 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:01:57 +0300 (EEST) Received: from bilkent.edu.tr (ppp102.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.111.102]) by manyas.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE2831EFF for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:01:55 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3F17108D.5030501@bilkent.edu.tr> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:09:33 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, tr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: describing people References: <20030717181732.GY24731@skunk.reutershealth.com> In-Reply-To: <20030717181732.GY24731@skunk.reutershealth.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020531 X-archive-position: 5901 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: robin@bilkent.edu.tr Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Robin Turner From: Robin Turner Reply-To: robin@bilkent.edu.tr X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20383 John Cowan wrote: > Craig scripsit: > > >>How do you ask what someone looks like? I don't want the answer to be "a >>fish" but rather a description of the person's appearance. > > > I first thought of "ko'a simlu ma", but "ko'a selski fo ma" would be > more precise. > "ko'a simlu ma" would indeed invite the answer "lo finpe". ta'o k'ie doi kreig. ... be careful about "ko'a" - it's very tempting to use it to translate he/she/it, and this is _wrong_. "ko'a" should be one of the rarer pro-sumti, since you would only use it if you felt it useful to specifically assign a pro-sumti to a person or thing. Given that you're writing a story KO'A may be appropriate, but I've seen too many cases where people use "ko'a" when they really want "ti" or "ri". robin.tr -- "A strategy is still being formulated." Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin