From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Jul 11 11:00:16 2003 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35923 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2003 18:00:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jul 2003 18:00:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitalkingdom.org) (204.152.186.175) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2003 18:00:15 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.12) id 19b2Bp-0001FP-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:00:13 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([204.152.186.175]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19b2BX-0001Be-00; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:59:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu ([18.7.21.83]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19b2BA-0001Ap-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:59:32 -0700 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h6BHx5te029474 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.9.2) with ESMTP id h6BHrs2W000964 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from torg.mit.edu (TORG.MIT.EDU [18.243.1.228]) ) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id h6BHrrU8020685 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rob by torg.mit.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19b25g-0002Kl-00 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:53:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 13:53:52 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: "Game", "Player" Message-ID: <20030711175352.GA8932@mit.edu> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20030711174509.77537.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030711174509.77537.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-archive-position: 5857 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rspeer@MIT.EDU Precedence: bulk X-list: lojban-list X-eGroups-From: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rspeer@MIT.EDU X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 20338 On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 10:45:09AM -0700, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > Your rules apply only to you. They are your rules, which pertain to you and > > nobody else. > > I'm not very familiar with this game. Does this mean you can't make > a rule like "every player gains one point", but you can make one > that says "I gain one point"? How can rules of different players > ever agree if they can only pertain to their creators? I'm familiar with the game (I just figured out that the Craig in B Nomic is the same as the Lojbanist... egad, I'm slow), but I don't recognize the ruleset, and I'm wondering the same thing. -- Rob Speer